What game would you most like to see for the upcoming Patron's Choice?

[Pochomex]

I've been voting for Nier in the past Patron's Choice events and I plan to do so again this time. I'm also interested in seeing DSP play Senran Kagura: Estival Versus since it's a goofy Japanese action game that I think would make for a great silly playthrough. This last Indie Marathon got me really interested in seeing Phil finish playing Hotline Miami 2 and Postal 2 but I wonder if those games might be too short. 

What would you be interested in seeing?

[TraditionalGames]

Phoenix Wright, Shenmue, or Dreamfall the Longest Journey.

[SilentWarrior25]

Just now, markymark52 said:

Shenmue is an Awesome suggestion. Although he'd have to buy a Dreamcast (assuming he doesn't own one) to run it as it hasn't been ported to any other console, downloadable or physical disk.

Some Of My suggestions:

Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore (preferred over secret of Mana)
Final Fantasy Tactics
The Swapper

 

Fun fact: Shenmue HD got trademarked by Sega about a week ago.

[Farooq]

Dreadhalls

[BlonderSTS]

max payne 1 + 2, manhunt 1 + 2

[TraditionalGames]

3 hours ago, markymark52 said:

Shenmue is an Awesome suggestion. Although he'd have to buy a Dreamcast (assuming he doesn't own one) to run it as it hasn't been ported to any other console, downloadable or physical disk.

Some Of My suggestions:

Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore (preferred over secret of Mana)
Final Fantasy Tactics
The Swapper

 

It can be emulated with NullDC

[Pochomex]

What about the Bloodborne DLC? People love seeing Phil play the Souls games and he loves playing them, he seems pretty adamant against playing the DLC at the moment so I think a Patron's Choice event is the only way we'll ever see him play it.

[Phil]

2 hours ago, Pochomex said:

What about the Bloodborne DLC? People love seeing Phil play the Souls games and he loves playing them, he seems pretty adamant against playing the DLC at the moment so I think a Patron's Choice event is the only way we'll ever see him play it.

Sorry, but the Patron's Choice event is for new game playthroughs - not re-playing Bloodborne entirely from the start until I can get to the point where I can start the DLC again and be leveled enough to actually beat it reasonably. That would be pretty ridiculous, because nobody would watch ANY of the videos or streams leading up to the DLC again, and it would take multiple sessions. I think people seriously need to give up on this DLC, and realize that the moment I was convinced to play it on NG+, that ended the chances of it ever being completed.

[Pochomex]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Sorry, but the Patron's Choice event is for new game playthroughs - not re-playing Bloodborne entirely from the start until I can get to the point where I can start the DLC again and be leveled enough to actually beat it reasonably. That would be pretty ridiculous, because nobody would watch ANY of the videos or streams leading up to the DLC again, and it would take multiple sessions. I think people seriously need to give up on this DLC, and realize that the moment I was convinced to play it on NG+, that ended the chances of it ever being completed.

Hey, never say never. There have been too many times in your YouTube career where you were adamantly against something only to be convinced later and end up enjoying it. 

I honestly didn't know there were prerequisites like that to what is allowed in the Patron's Choice event. I thought you'd just play whatever gets the most votes, I didn't know you don't allow games that you've previously played. So something like an Undertale Genocide run would be disqualified wouldn't it? I was actually suggesting in another thread that you should prohibit super long games like Kingdom Hearts or Phoenix Wright. Do you have these ground rules written down somewhere for Patrons to see or do you handle this stuff on a case-by-case basis?

[Phil]

58 minutes ago, Pochomex said:

Hey, never say never. There have been too many times in your YouTube career where you were adamantly against something only to be convinced later and end up enjoying it. 

I honestly didn't know there were prerequisites like that to what is allowed in the Patron's Choice event. I thought you'd just play whatever gets the most votes, I didn't know you don't allow games that you've previously played. So something like an Undertale Genocide run would be disqualified wouldn't it? I was actually suggesting in another thread that you should prohibit super long games like Kingdom Hearts or Phoenix Wright. Do you have these ground rules written down somewhere for Patrons to see or do you handle this stuff on a case-by-case basis?

It's definitely case by case. My concern is that, in the past, I've not had restriction placed on what could be played, and then we had a total disaster situation like Persona 3: a game that was INSANELY long, being played for an excruciatingly long period of time because of other new releases; a dwindling audience where the vast majority of people didn't care about it anymore because it took so long; and then a final boss fight that is based completely on RNG, causing one to replay anywhere from 90 minutes-3 hours of gameplay JUST TO GET BACK TO THE BOSS and have it happen all over again. That was a perfect shitstorm of disaster, and I still get crap for it despite, at that time, only promising 10 gameplay hours from the Patrons' choice playthrough.

I'd think that now, since I'm guaranteeing I'll finish whichever game wins the nominations/voting, there can be some kind of an understanding of reason between myself and the Patrons. Yes, I want to play a game that they pick; but because I'm promising a full playthrough, it has to be a game that is going to allow me to 1. hopefully beat it within a reasonable amount of time, 2. continue to play new releases to keep interest going and the business afloat, and 3. not piss people off of things don't go perfectly.

 

So case in point, I don't see another incredibly long JRPG making sense. This playthrough will begin in late February/early March when there will be other new releases I'll be balancing along with it. I also want to keep up with KOgaming and NOT fall behind on producing reviews and other videos for it, so that the channel can organically grow and NOT stagnate like it did in the summer of 2016. Having a game that's going to be a 50-80 hour playthrough that will take me 3 months to complete isn't going to make sense; Persona 5 releases on April 4, and that will trump ANY interest in any other RPG anyway. 

Same thing with Bloodborne DLC: I'd have to re-buy and completely replay a game I've already soundly and fairly beaten before, with no incentive for anyone to watch until I've gotten to the point where the DLC starts. From what I've heard, that's anywhere from 8-12 HOURS of gameplay (3-4 long sessions) that nobody is going to care about. That's going to TANK the business for a week. It'd be one thing if this were 2010, I were still a bachelor living in Connecticut, and I had insane amounts of free time. There is no time for "offline gaming" anymore outside of maybe tapping my iPhone screen to a mindless mobile game while spending time with Leanna watching TV, or a movie to unwind at night. Times have changed, and everything I do for the business has to be meaningful; in other words, "there's no time to waste."

 

Now, an Undertale Genocide run would only force me to replay a few parts of the game in the same way, but would allow me to see TONS of new stuff, including the hardest fights in the game. My only concern is that some of them may be TOO tough (I heard one took someone over an hour to beat, WTF, I cannot do that as my fingers will fall off) but at least there would be enough variety...and NOT a ridiculous amount of redoing stuff I've done before, due to the way the game changes during a Genocide run - to keep me having fun and likely keep viewers engaged.

[MurderBobby]

Finish Postal 2.  Play the expansion packs Apocalypse Weekend and Paradise Lost.

[TraditionalGames]

38 minutes ago, Phil said:

My only concern is that some of them may be TOO tough (I heard one took someone over an hour to beat, WTF, I cannot do that as my fingers will fall off)

An hour is probably the fastest it took. The final fight takes some streamers multiple streams and several hours.

[Darksphere92]

Mercenaries 1 (PS2)

Skullgirls 2nd encore.

Let it Die (PS4)

Sonic Adventure 1 and/or 2

Super Mario Sunshine.

Terraria

Those are my picks.

[Chachamaru]

3 hours ago, Phil said:

Sorry, but the Patron's Choice event is for new game playthroughs - not re-playing Bloodborne entirely from the start until I can get to the point where I can start the DLC again and be leveled enough to actually beat it reasonably. That would be pretty ridiculous, because nobody would watch ANY of the videos or streams leading up to the DLC again, and it would take multiple sessions. I think people seriously need to give up on this DLC, and realize that the moment I was convinced to play it on NG+, that ended the chances of it ever being completed.

Did u know why ppl suggested u to play ng+ back then? The same reason u just gave above. Bcos u were alrdy overleveled for ng+ u can just cruise thru the first 3 bosses without having to grind so it was presumably the better option than having to make new character and grind to appropriate level. U did not get tricked into ng+, ppl gave u the reasons and u agreed to it. Nobody thought that u d get rekt so hard even with npc summons and ragequit the game.

ppl still want to see u beat it and imo it would do as well, if not better, as ur dark souls 1 "redemption" run. They will still hope u get back to it considering how much u flipflop on other stuffs.

[BlonderSTS]

xcom 2

 

[Blackspawn89]

I will break it down with what I WANT vs what Phil should play for his business

 

I Want(In order):

1) Mega Man Legends(PS3)

2) Maximo: Ghosts To Glory(PS3, if you want a cheap death game that holds no blow and you can't rely on the stream chat besides the bosses for, this is the one. If Phil makes it out of this one without ragging a couple of times, no doubt the man should be given a nobel peace prize.)

3) Manhunt(PS4)

What Phil should play to strike up buzz for his channel:

Zone of the Enders HD Collection for PS3.

1) It's one of Hideo Kojima's babies so you are getting the crazy that Kojima's known for and the cinematic goodness. I think it's the only Kojima franchise(That Phil can stream) Phil has not touched yet as he's tackled the two Castlevanias and all of the MGS and it's too expensive/difficult to get Snatcher/Policenauts. 

2) It can get pretty difficult, which in turn can frustrate Phil enough to garner some attention. But it is relentless fun and it's a tip of the nod to Gundam which I think Phil likes or liked? But I do feel for the chat mods because it's going to bring everyone to the chats. 

3) Each game is pretty short which is why I throw it in as a bundle, I don't think Phil would need a full month to knock out just 1 game hence why both are there.

 

Given Phil's infamous standing with anything Kojima, I am surprised he never tackled ZOE. Could lead to some fabulous and funny art work for pre streams. Game is right up his alley.

 

Still though combined I think the game is like 13 hours long which is basically 4 DSP main streams, so that might not be a month long playthrough unless Phil dedicates this game once a week which he might do given NiOh, For Honor etc. 

Edited January 15, 2017 by Blackspawn89

[Blackspawn89]

Sorry to double post but I did forget to mention a series I have long wanted to see DSP's spin on:

Danganronpa

This in all honesty would have been my top game for Phil to play for the next patreon's choice but honestly this would be a PERFECT June/July game if Phil does a 2nd Patreon's choice, just because Danganronpa 1+2 Reload is coming March 12th 2017 to North America, and given this is a PS Vita(Which he cannot capture) and PC(Which he might have trouble doing though the game isn't so demanding graphically), it might make more sense for hold off on this series. But it caters to a good portion of his fanbase who are into the Anime tropes, it is absolutely wacky and sort of caters to Phil's style of game since DSP kinda like Ace Attorney and the 1st game is 30 hours which isn't too demanding like a JRPG and there's a new Danganronpa hitting stateside that is (so far) promised for 2017 still so Phil can get a taste if he'd invest something into this series or not, ala Persona 3 and 4 and Yakuza series. 

 

I think this is more viewer friendly and stream friendly than 999 or Steins;Gate since it's a real murder mystery and it's full of nonsense. I just fear the spoilers and stream chat hand holding would absolutely destroy this playthrough, this is the type of game YOU HAVE TO GO BLIND INTO or else you are wasting your time. 

[Pochomex]

On 1/12/2017 at 8:11 PM, Darksphere92 said:

Mercenaries 1 (PS2)

Skullgirls 2nd encore.

Let it Die (PS4)

Sonic Adventure 1 and/or 2

Super Mario Sunshine.

Terraria

Those are my picks.

Super Mario Sunshine is a classic. I'm surprised DSP hasn't played it yet. That would be a great Patron's Choice playthrough but would he need to find a GameCube or is there some way to play it on his Wii U?

[SilentWarrior25]

54 minutes ago, Pochomex said:

Super Mario Sunshine is a classic. I'm surprised DSP hasn't played it yet. That would be a great Patron's Choice playthrough but would he need to find a GameCube or is there some way to play it on his Wii U?

The Switch is supposed to have the Gamecube virtual console with Super Mario Sunshine at launch, so if that's true then there's no need for a Gamecube.

[Aceman]

 

On 1/12/2017 at 0:18 PM, BlonderSTS said:

max payne 1 + 2, manhunt 1 + 2

Gonna piggyback on this post with manhunt 1. That game was so fucking rage inducing. ( for me anyway )

 

I also nominate Sonic Adventure 2 like DarkSphere said. 

Edited January 24, 2017 by Aceman

[Noir]

2 hours ago, Pochomex said:

Super Mario Sunshine is a classic. I'm surprised DSP hasn't played it yet. That would be a great Patron's Choice playthrough but would he need to find a GameCube or is there some way to play it on his Wii U?

You could play Sunshine on Wii U if you use nintendont. Getting homebrew on the wii u is extremely easy if you have brawl and a 2gb sd card 

[Pochomex]

On 1/23/2017 at 6:16 PM, SilentWarrior25 said:

The Switch is supposed to have the Gamecube virtual console with Super Mario Sunshine at launch, so if that's true then there's no need for a Gamecube.

If that's true I'll definitely buy a Switch asap. 

Has Phil ever played the Sam & Max series? I feel like he'd really enjoy them considering how much he enjoys Telltale games

[ShoUCCMaster]

Since Phil's schedule is going to go nuts in February and March with releases on the Switch and otherwise, I'll suggest a couple things that are fun and have some narrative content without being long and drawn out like an RPG.

- Skullgirls (he'd want to get Second Encore, even if the base game is available for all the content): it's a polished fighting game that has some narrative stuff
- Viscera Cleanup Detail: a really chill puzzle game (at its core), and even though this is on Steam, his PC should be able to both run it and stream it just fine at 1080p.
- JoJo's Bizzare Adventure: All-Star Battle (or even Eyes of Heaven): the former is a more traditional controlling fighting game with narrative stuff, and the latter is an arena fighter with narrative stuff. Both are flashy and goofy, would make for fun streams, and make for a few exciting streams.

All of these games require minimal long-term attention from Phil and provide for very fun, interactive streams for the viewers.

[Blackspawn89]

Going to be hard to come up with what to nominate for Phil to play but I forgot to include Viewtiful Joe, a game Phil I think will enjoy very much. I would play this as hard of a difficulty as possible to get the most out of it(He won't be able to get the adults only difficulty in his 1st playthrough), game is just absolute fun and absolute high paced Kamiya adrenaline.