Jelsea1973 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 **Doh sorry mods I didn't mean to put this here can you move this pls. Thx.** First want to say, sorry, maybe I am being irrational, but the excessive dead air before the pre-stream is really starting to get to me. I know its not really dead air, its usually a video but when you watch the video repeat 3-4 times it gets old. When he first started it was only like 5mins before he would do the pre-steam, then it got up to 10 mins, then 20 mins, and now its starting to be 25mins, Phil can we please do something about this, not sure why you need to wait 20-30 mins before you start the pre-stream, I know you are waiting for the viewers to build, but your putting us to sleep, or irritating us the longer you keep us waiting. So am I being irrational here or are there others that feel this way? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvador Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 No you're not the only one,trust me.I don't get it either.Not to mention I remember him promising shorter prestreams and yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPappiSanchez Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 And that's the chat moderator speaking about this. Think about this Phil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Couldn't agree with you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triforcedlink Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Eh, it gets boring a bit, but I usually just leave the tab and fiddle about the other parts of the internet to pass the time. Though I can understand people's frustration with waiting and wanting to just start the game already. Though is it just me or are his prestreams longer then usually?Don't really mind him mentioning views, but I don't want to wait ten minutes for the gameplay to start Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoko_Kirigiri Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I've already said this before but Phil should really just cut down the pre streams and start 30 min before the designated time that way he can be set up and ready to go why make people wait 20 mins for the prestream and another 10-15 just for the gameplay to start? Its a reoccuring issue thats been plaguing his streams for a long time now and people are starting to get annoyed of it myself included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy_Samosa Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Do you REALLY have nothing else going on that time that you are just staring at the dead air? What I do is keep multiple tabs open. One for my work and the other for the stream. Once Phil actually starts playing, I tune in occasionally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWC Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Despite what any schedule says, the first stream starts at 4:00 PM EST on the dot and 10:00PM EST second stream. The best strategy would be to arrive about ten minutes prior to catch the pre-stream. The dead air will persist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Sadly it's a YouTube issue.Since I started streaming on YouTUbe, it takes up to 30 minutes for some people to get the notification that I've gone live on stream. In addition, it then takes MORE time for YouTube to send the data to my website so it'll show up there. There have been days that I started the stream 15-20 minutes ahead of the scheduled time but nobody is aware because YouTUbe is SO DELAYED.The thing is, I AGREE with you. I want to start on time and frequently I'm there ahead of time, but YouTube seems to be completely random with when it actually feels like working. In addition - now because it's become THE NORM for streams to be late, everyone shows up later.So it's either: start incredibly early just to HOPE that YouTUbe works, and then have tons of people miss the beginning of the stream.......or stay as it is now. There's no "happy medium" sorry to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvador Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 But Phil this isn't Twitch,if people are late they can easily go back to where the prestream/stream started.It's super easy and they can even catch up to the live broadcast while you're on a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanglord Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yup. Starting earlier shouldn't be an issue as you can literally skip to the start of the stream if you turned up late, a massive advantage compared to Twitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 But then they won't be "live" with the stream chat, which most people complain about. In addition, it takes upwards of 20+ minutes for YouTube to "send the code" to thekingofhate.com so the stream can be displayed there. There's nothing that can be done with that process to make it faster, it just has to happen and YT takes its sweet time. Some days YT NEVER sends the code and I have to manually override the site (Which is a pain in the ass to do/undo) that just complicates things more.At this point, most people have fallen into the new routine and things are working out fine, so I don't think this is much of an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepClearEyes Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 If it takes 20 minutes for youtube to send the stream code, then go live with it 20 minutes before you're scheduled to start. If you say you're starting your steam at 12:30, then start at 12:10 and then hopefully the code shows up at the actual advertised start time. Doesn't this make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superskull85 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 If it takes 20 minutes for youtube to send the stream code, then go live with it 20 minutes before you're scheduled to start. If you say you're starting your steam at 12:30, then start at 12:10 and then hopefully the code shows up at the actual advertised start time. Doesn't this make sense?Regardless the dead air would still be there it just wouldn't be later in the stream. At the moment (may change in the future when/if YouTube functionality changes) it would be best to just come 20 minutes later. Starting earlier doesn't really help. It just shifts when the dead air airs.@Phil :In regards to manually updating your site would it be technically faster to do that instead of waiting 20+ minutes? If so, while it would be painful, it would be a way to reduce dead air. I don't know how the page implements the viewer on the server side so I can't be of any help beyond that. Just a thought if you wanted to do it and speed up dead air or at least limit it to how it takes YouTube to notify viewers only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGhaleon Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Somebody move this to General or something <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/20/2015 at 5:05 AM, Phil said: I want to start on time and frequently I'm there ahead of time, but YouTube seems to be completely random with when it actually feels like working. In the Twitter-schedule it says that you start at 10:15, (morning), and you may be doing that, but it is done with music that lasts for more than 15-20 minutes?. That's somewhat... fine, but I suggest that you shorten the schedule-part, or at least the plugs-segment, specially for the politics/religion/dox, since it can be done way quicker, but still, in a concise manner. I'd also suggest you to go to the restroom before the Prestream starts, because at some point it took ages, (hyperbole, kind of), for you to come back. [The fact that the post I'm responding to is from 2015 is irrelevant now, you can use this criticism to apply it to the current timeline.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, PsychoBrattata said: It is irrelevant. This is 5 years ago and he was streaming on a whole different platform on a whole different schedule. Stop bumping necro-threads or get that ass reported. I have the right to post on these threads as it's not against the rules, and they're not locked. You can only cling onto subjectivity like your opinion being that my posts are irrelevant, but luckily, that's what's irrelevant. Since you're against freedom of speech, you can false report me, but what a massive hypocrite you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, PsychoBrattata said: How it's irrelevant now: He needs time to set up the stream and do things. The criticism implies that he doesn't need 15-20 minutes to set up things, that may surpass the 10:30 minute mark. But even if he did, I still posted that it could be understandable, so it served as an opening to the next part of the suggestion. Just now, PsychoBrattata said: How it's irrelevant now: If you know exactly when the music stop or starts, why not wait 15-20 minutes before joining the stream? I do because the music is horrible. It's not that hard. Same part as before, and I myself don't show up early if I don't want to get the music part, but that's still not the main criticism. Just now, PsychoBrattata said: How it's irrelevant now: All you have to do is skip the fucking prestream. Everybody knows he likes hearing himself talk about drama and money problems for almost an hour and a half then take a shit for 30 mins before gameplay actually starts. Of course I can skip the Prestream, but the actual suggestion was made to improve such segment, to enhance it, make it lighter for his audience and actually help him to not lose potential viewers. It's about getting better, not to just skip the heavy parts. Just now, PsychoBrattata said: That's why your post is irrelevant. Get it now? Now that you are educated on what irrelevant is, please don't bump necro'd threads again or I will report you. Do you understand me? That's why my post is relevant, I can make it, I have the right to make it, and you showing up just to threaten to report me because you cannot conceive the fact that your opinion might be the uneducated one, makes you a pretty intolerant person, right now. Please stop displaying such pretentiousness and stop threatening me in such tone, you're very rude. If all you have left is more of the same disgusting behaviour, do not bother to reply to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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